Posts by Muddy Waters

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A wife's submission

by Mark_C in

i'm relatively new to the faith, and struggle with many concepts and teachings.

i am getting married soon.

part of the teaching i've experienced is that a wife must learn submission to her husband.

Muddy Waters

The apostle Paul was never married, yet gave marital advice.

it reminds me of the GB, who, for the majority, don't have children, yet give advice on child rearing. They also give advice on field service when they themselves rarely go, if ever.

headship, submission -- bah! As a female totally-believing-it-all good little JW, all it made me do was learn how to be manipulative and passive-aggressive with my dear husband, who, thankfully, was much more balanced than I was in the JW world. I was a self righteous little bitch who controlled the tv, the family's recreation, anything we chose to read, watch, or do... All "submissively"' of course.

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Arrogant Titles for Elders and Company Men

by punkofnice in

i was thinking of the arrogant titles jw's give up the pecking order.

teachers.

glorious ones.

Muddy Waters

"... A heavy crag...

a shelter from the windstorm

a place of concealment..."

yes, even humble servants....

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Well, what can you say???? I am speechless.

by DATA-DOG in

exhibit a:.

awake!

"if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

Muddy Waters

Marking... :(

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...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...

by OUTLAW in

.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...

.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...

are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...

Muddy Waters

Marking, marking. Unbelievable.

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Jehovah's Witness Tragedy - a series of installments.

by Julia Orwell in

i'm working on a short story/novella about a jw family.

it's called the opal ring.

i will be posting it in installments, and would like some feedback on it.

Muddy Waters

Oh, I love Alexander Solzhenitsyn, too! But I can't often get through his stuff, it's so heart-breaking!

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Jehovah's Witness Tragedy - a series of installments.

by Julia Orwell in

i'm working on a short story/novella about a jw family.

it's called the opal ring.

i will be posting it in installments, and would like some feedback on it.

Muddy Waters

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Jehovah's Witness Tragedy - a series of installments.

by Julia Orwell in

i'm working on a short story/novella about a jw family.

it's called the opal ring.

i will be posting it in installments, and would like some feedback on it.

Muddy Waters

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ELDER BOOK to be HANDED OVER to Min.of Justice (FINLAND)

by RagingBull in

jehovah's witnesses to hand over top-secret manualon friday finland's jehovah's witnesses will give their religious rule book to the minister of justice and the minister of the interior so that it can be inspected to ensure that it's in line with finnish rule of law.

jehovah's witnesses will hand over their secret rule book to the minister of justice, anna-maja henriksson, and the minister of the interior, paivi rasanen.

image: heikki saukkomaa / lehtikuva until now, only senior members of the jehovahs witnesses committee have had access to the congregation's secret book of rules.. the disciplinary activities of the jehovah's witnesses committee have been criticised for violating human rights.. according to anna-maja henriksson, finland's minister of justice, the purpose of the handover is to examine the book and determine whether its rules and regulations run counter to finnish law.. henriksson and interior minister paivi rasanen met on thursday with the leadership of the jehovah's witnesses in helsinki.

Muddy Waters

Ha!! I love how the minister of justice is a woman!! Imagine! A female handling and looking into the Shepherding Book! (I want to call the shepherding book "The Rules of Acquisition" lol!)

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Jehovah's Witness Tragedy - a series of installments.

by Julia Orwell in

i'm working on a short story/novella about a jw family.

it's called the opal ring.

i will be posting it in installments, and would like some feedback on it.

Muddy Waters

Great stuff, Julia! Fast paced, totally relatable to the ex-JW. Looking forward to more!

There is such a sad, creepy undertone to the story, the lack of feeling in the JW characters-- that mindless devotion to the org--

your writing style and story is reminiscent of John Steinnbeck, nice work. :)

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suggestions from Crisis of conscience

by monis1 in

my husband is inactive, but still very much believes in the borg as having the truth.

i now have coc in spanish.

i am currently reading it, but i would love to know if anyone can point me to any specifics.

Muddy Waters

There are so many excellent portions of the book, CoC.

I like Ray's point on p.41 (fourth edition) where he asks, "do scriptural examples themselves urge against disclosure of wrongs where these involve those in high places of authority? It does not seem so, since the work of the Hebrew prophets frequently focused on such ones, those prophets making known the ways in which Israel's leaders and men in authority, even high priests, had strayed from God's standards with resulting problems. Jehovah's witnesses have often pointed to such candor and openness as one of the evidences that the Bible is truthful, genuinely God's book."

I also like the ending of chapter 10' where he quotes from an apology given by Herbert Armstrong's Worldwide Church of God, where they mentioned their flawed doctrinal understandings and unscriptural practices. If you read this letter without the background information, it sounds exactly like the sort of apology the WTS could and should have written, but probably never will.